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Posted by: rlcw
Posted on: 2008-07-15 23:16

Lets do "Apple to Apple" Comparison
Location : Chuk Yuen
Device : iPhone3G
Method : [url=http://www.linkwan.com/gb]http://www.linkwan.com/gb[/url]
              Choose : HK
              Datacentre : NWT

All test are carry out with clear cache before it's test

SMC-Voda 3G , Plan $488 , unlimited data usage , APN internet , result 1223.85 Kbps

[img]http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a279/rlcw/IMG_0001.png[/img]

3 3G , Plan $498 (iPhone Plan) , unlimited data usage , APN mobile.three.com.hk , result 225.04Kbps

[img]http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a279/rlcw/IMG_0002.png[/img]

FYR

SMC-Voda-3G , APN internet = 785kbps

[img]http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a279/rlcw/IMG_0003.png[/img]

3-3G , APN mobile.three.com.hk = 103kbps

[img]http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a279/rlcw/IMG_0004.png[/img]

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Posted by: iczfirz
Posted on: 2008-07-15 23:19

睇下睇.. 呢個3.. 都係算把啦..:~)

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Posted by: rlcw
Posted on: 2008-07-15 23:24

iczfirz wrote:
睇下睇.. 呢個3.. 都係算把啦..:~)




...........

24 month contract ar !

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Posted by: javacom
Posted on: 2008-07-15 23:49

This is totally unacceptable.
Slower than EDGE ???

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Posted by: san295
Posted on: 2008-07-15 23:51

咁不如用人仔任上edge好過

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Posted by: disco2000
Posted on: 2008-07-15 23:53

very very shocking... how come!!! 24mth contract with such network??!!

我極度懷疑各位話iPhone 3G電好差既case, 都有可能係因為3個network...皆因我之前用過3, 我發覺部電話快一倍無電,轉返CSL即係慳一半電...

依家我用CSL, 部iPhone standby大半日,聽左四個鐘歌,都仲有3/4電

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Posted by: iPhone 3G
Posted on: 2008-07-16 00:00

想問樓主,咁pccw 既hsdpa 又點呢?佢地話有全港最好網絡

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Posted by: rlcw
Posted on: 2008-07-16 00:09

iPhone 3G wrote:
想問樓主,咁pccw 既hsdpa 又點呢?佢地話有全港最好網絡




I have no comment on it XD

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Posted by: ac520
Posted on: 2008-07-16 01:58

好彩未出機

都係等第二個 provider 先出 iP3G

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Posted by: disco2000
Posted on: 2008-07-16 02:09

但又咁睇... 幾日內多左千幾個客係咁上網,個network負荷都好大,我估3可能set左speed limit... 而且其他台又無咁多咁heavy既data客

到時其他台又有賣iPhone, 又出呢D咁平既data plan, 可能都會慢左

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Posted by: rlcw
Posted on: 2008-07-16 09:02

New Test were conduct at one building located beside Java Road , just test before

SMC = 638kbps

[img]http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a279/rlcw/Image218.jpg[/img]

3-3G = 66kbps

[img]http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a279/rlcw/Image217.jpg[/img]

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Posted by: jsound
Posted on: 2008-07-16 11:41

tested at Tusen Wan using 3.

613kbps.

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Posted by: vandarsar
Posted on: 2008-07-16 11:52

點算呀.....仲有 24 個月約呀........

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Posted by: ryusei_ame
Posted on: 2008-07-16 11:53

我係屋企試都有762kbps (沙田某公屋)

用3 仔, 所以唔好成日話3仔唔好

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Posted by: nadnad
Posted on: 2008-07-16 11:55

Not bad using 3 at Tung Chung area.

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Posted by: shooter.ca
Posted on: 2008-07-16 11:56

nadnad wrote:
Not bad using 3 at Tung Chung area.



Wow...this is impressive!

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Posted by: jsound
Posted on: 2008-07-16 12:02

I think the speed of 3 is acceptable and even say the capable of iphone speed supporting 2Mbps HSDPA.

Also, ISP offerring thruput capacity sharing in a building and why ppl cannot accept the concept on mobile network. In fact, many ppl join the operator the quality might get lower as expected.

If you must enjoy the highest thruput, it suggest u to move to the operator(3G), which only has a few customers, it can fulfill yr needed

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Posted by: ryusei_ame
Posted on: 2008-07-16 12:08

剛剛試埋high speed, 結果797kbps

頭先762kbps 係用mobile

其實按mobile 同high speed 有乜分別?

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Posted by: calvin_kl
Posted on: 2008-07-16 14:01

iczfirz wrote:
睇下睇.. 呢個3.. 都係算把啦..:~)




我禽日去九龍西某一門市問野,10問9唔應,又非常無禮貌,希望係個別事件,如果因為覺得真係有6萬人排除出機而唔憂做,就恭喜佢地發財:!(

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Posted by: matthew
Posted on: 2008-07-16 14:08

calvin_kl wrote:
iczfirz wrote:
睇下睇.. 呢個3.. 都係算把啦..:~)




我禽日去九龍西某一門市問野,10問9唔應,又非常無禮貌,希望係個別事件,如果因為覺得真係有6萬人排除出機而唔憂做,就恭喜佢地發財:!(




我個邊都係咁啵

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Posted by: shooter.ca
Posted on: 2008-07-16 14:10

琴日係中環, 見到d sales好鬼忙...我唸個服務態度差係近排佢地太多野做...有壓力嘛~ :)

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Posted by: calvin_kl
Posted on: 2008-07-16 14:14

你有壓力~

我有壓力:D

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Posted by: vandarsar
Posted on: 2008-07-16 14:43

C hing, could you elaborate a bit more pls ? what is 3 operator ? what is the different of highspeed / ..... ?

Thanks a lot.

jsound wrote:
I think the speed of 3 is acceptable and even say the capable of iphone speed supporting 2Mbps HSDPA.

Also, ISP offerring thruput capacity sharing in a building and why ppl cannot accept the concept on mobile network. In fact, many ppl join the operator the quality might get lower as expected.

If you must enjoy the highest thruput, it suggest u to move to the operator(3G), which only has a few customers, it can fulfill yr needed



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Posted by: gumo
Posted on: 2008-07-16 15:59

ST-V data 咩都有限制,可能無乜人用,所以速度快d都唔定。
3仔既 data 只係用 policy 叫你唔好bt,但又無 block,可能多人用呢。
我兩個data 都有,都係 3仔 方便 d。

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Posted by: javacom
Posted on: 2008-07-16 16:23

我覺得 smartone 最衰就係 block ftp port
download speed 係比 3HK 快的,
但smartone成日斷線, 最慘是有的唔可以resume.
3HK就未知

其實smartone的強項是upload speed 真是很快.

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Posted by: carywong
Posted on: 2008-07-16 18:02

我係office室內試.
地方係尖沙咀.
速度又冇咁差[$#22083].

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Posted by: iczfirz
Posted on: 2008-07-16 18:44

速度快與否?!...
我之前用SMV在iPhone2G有大半年..
現在用3在iPhone2G有兩日..
我只可以話...

我呢兩日成日上瘋網都
-見到safari load load下突然can't found the server
-見到safari load圖出左問號
-見到safari load到尾都仲keep load
-見到safari load左條bar 幾mm就停左

電話語音.. 都冇SMV咁清楚.. 但都未試過聽聽下cut左...

遊盪地點主要大圍/旺角/金鐘/荔景

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Posted by: gumo
Posted on: 2008-07-17 00:24

你吃開神戶牛柳,而家轉左本地肥牛,係咁架喇。不過我本人喜歡本地肥牛多d。嘻嘻

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Posted by: raymond9999
Posted on: 2008-07-25 17:26

唔算太慢丫

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Posted by: shooter.ca
Posted on: 2008-07-25 17:46

Hennessy Road v.s. Tonnochy Road

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Posted by: BigboyPlayer
Posted on: 2008-07-26 20:56

633.28Kbps

係尖咀一個商場既basement

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Posted by: optman88
Posted on: 2008-07-27 07:14

The speed is not bad @ causeway bay.

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Posted by: fred22
Posted on: 2008-07-27 14:05

speed not too bad.

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Posted by: rlcw
Posted on: 2008-07-29 21:10

I've conduct some details test as below

I've plug my iPhone unlimited data SIM to another Mobile Device - Motorola MAXX V3

Using the Motorola MAXX V3 connecting to the internet with APN : mobile.three.com.hk and ping to my server located at HK , found there's not able get the HSPA radio channel in always , If you're able to get HSPA channel , 9x ms to HK's site , if it's not able , 25x ms to HK's site , please also notice there's packet loss on the radio network

Compare with SMC-Voda , there's not much problem on HSPA channel and the packet loss , details will submit later tonight

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Posted by: jsound
Posted on: 2008-07-30 14:17

Well done. Thanks a lot. thanks for yr effort!! How abt CSL & PCCW, if you can test for 2G operators it should be helping us a lot! Really funny report :P

BTW, for these 2 operators, what's the data roaming performance?

rlcw wrote:
I've conduct some details test as below

I've plug my iPhone unlimited data SIM to another Mobile Device - Motorola MAXX V3

Using the Motorola MAXX V3 connecting to the internet with APN : mobile.three.com.hk and ping to my server located at HK , found there's not able get the HSPA radio channel in always , If you're able to get HSPA channel , 9x ms to HK's site , if it's not able , 25x ms to HK's site , please also notice there's packet loss on the radio network

Compare with SMC-Voda , there's not much problem on HSPA channel and the packet loss , details will submit later tonight



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Posted by: rayhklee
Posted on: 2008-07-30 16:12

我認為測試地方都好影響,我都係咁安慰自己

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Posted by: kaho1128
Posted on: 2008-08-05 15:21

其實快同慢都唔係差好多, i mean load d page出黎.
你地上網計$都係count mb usage又唔係count時間....
可能對於我黎講, 呢方面的速度無咩咁重要.

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Posted by: dtklee
Posted on: 2008-08-06 14:11

fred22 wrote:
speed not too bad.


依家係細k,就算1011kbps,都係1M都無,和記話自已條線係7.2M,呢d都叫not bad?

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Posted by: dtklee
Posted on: 2008-08-06 14:12

kaho1128 wrote:
其實快同慢都唔係差好多, i mean load d page出黎.
你地上網計$都係count mb usage又唔係count時間....
可能對於我黎講, 呢方面的速度無咩咁重要.


你咁講,不如用萬眾edge

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Posted by: newmanx
Posted on: 2008-08-06 22:32

Just tested at Tsuen Wan, Using 3, 185k only....

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Posted by: mickey
Posted on: 2008-08-07 13:23

Everybody concerns the data transfer speed, but how about the voice call service? Is that the same?

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Posted by: tyranid
Posted on: 2008-08-07 17:29

By the way which plan r u guy using?
it seem that my frd using 3xx$ plan is fast than my $498 plan

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Posted by: kaho1128
Posted on: 2008-08-08 16:35

dtklee wrote:
kaho1128 wrote:
其實快同慢都唔係差好多, i mean load d page出黎.
你地上網計$都係count mb usage又唔係count時間....
可能對於我黎講, 呢方面的速度無咩咁重要.


你咁講,不如用萬眾edge




從來無諗過用people, 原因係用開3

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Posted by: jim
Posted on: 2008-08-09 00:09

大家請留意。我是用3HK 和iPhone差不多之x-series平價data plan。3HK 在iphone和x-series上之data plan是會lock speed的。就算你部iphone有3.6/7.2Mbps HSDPA,也會lock了。不會去到3.6/7.2的,因要與純notebook data plan之easyplus用戶作出保障和分別。

iphone/x-series用的,是3G手機data plan (Voice+data),用apn: mobile.three.com.hk,而notebook USB modem之7.2Mbps(data only) 是用apn: ipc.three.com.hk

ipc.three.com.hk是沒有速度限制,但月費和其他vodafone/netvigator等等相同貴。

但其實如現想下,(即同時間不太多人同發射站內分享),應一般上網不覺太慢。而且,手機CPU不同notebook,就算有10Mbps,顯示web page感覺都不覺太快。除非將手機當modem給notebook用才會明顯。

PS: 你手上SIM card IMEI number已限制了你可去的apn.不可隨意轉。除非是roaming ISP

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Posted by: rlcw
Posted on: 2008-08-09 09:21

Hi Jim :

Actually , my previous experience is working inside an operator in HK which having the HSPA network , with 10 years IP core networking experience

In more technical , there shouldn't be the IMEI number , IMEI number is your mobile ident. number . I think you're talking about the IMSI .

HLR (Home Location Register) will lookup your IMSI , in order to verify which MSISDN (Mobile Number) are using and which kind of APN you're able to use , and of course , QoS control profile inside mobile element from BSC > MSC > SGSN > GGSN

FYI : Sample HLR information

HLR have a field which used to define which APN using which speed gei...

PACKETDATAPROTOCOLCONTEXTDATA

APNID PDPADD EQOSID VPAA PDPCH PDPTY PDPIDAPNID PDPADD EQOSID VPAA PDPCH PDPTY PDPID

0 365 NO IPV4 10 365 NO IPV4 1

1 365 NO IPV4 21 365 NO IPV4 2

FYI : http://www.lnic.net/ydtx_9.htm

On the other hand , I found 3 HK's outgoing connection limit has been reached , it's mostly the problem on Gi Firewall (a firewall in front of the GGSN in order to protect over billing) , which doesn't have enough PAT / NAT , and session limitation on it

Beside the Gi Firewall and QoS profile , there's the limitation on the radio , R4 of 3GPP element may not able to support more then 2 upstream are running 384K upload , it's most likely support "1" upstream which driving 384K upload as well , hence we're just like using the GPRS .

Radio planning is also a problem , we didn't know their radio planning is 64K planning or 384K planning as well.

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Posted by: rlcw
Posted on: 2008-08-09 12:30

Some findings today

Tried to connect it VIA my Motorola MAXX V6 with APN : mobile.three.com.hk

Time between 1100 ~ 1215 today

Although DNS is an UDP protocol , but there's very important as it's the core internet infrastructure . Unfortunally , found those DNS server need long duration / no reply at all

1 : 4 sec to reply www.apple.com

[IMG]http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a279/rlcw/three/4sec-applecom.jpg[/IMG]

2 : 3 sec to reply www.discuss.com.hk

[IMG]http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a279/rlcw/three/DNS-slow.jpg[/IMG]

3 : No reply ... www.hkix.net

[IMG]http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a279/rlcw/three/dns-no-reply-hkix.jpg[/IMG]

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Posted by: dtklee
Posted on: 2008-08-09 12:39

jim wrote:
大家請留意。我是用3HK 和iPhone差不多之x-series平價data plan。3HK 在iphone和x-series上之data plan是會lock speed的。就算你部iphone有3.6/7.2Mbps HSDPA,也會lock了。不會去到3.6/7.2的,因要與純notebook data plan之easyplus用戶作出保障和分別。

iphone/x-series用的,是3G手機data plan (Voice+data),用apn: mobile.three.com.hk,而notebook USB modem之7.2Mbps(data only) 是用apn: ipc.three.com.hk

ipc.three.com.hk是沒有速度限制,但月費和其他vodafone/netvigator等等相同貴。

但其實如現想下,(即同時間不太多人同發射站內分享),應一般上網不覺太慢。而且,手機CPU不同notebook,就算有10Mbps,顯示web page感覺都不覺太快。除非將手機當modem給notebook用才會明顯。

PS: 你手上SIM card IMEI number已限制了你可去的apn.不可隨意轉。除非是roaming ISP




純Data Plan最平先98,最貴先328.....爛3無可能因為咁而限制iphone plan

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Posted by: 頭文字A
Posted on: 2008-08-09 23:01

disco2000 wrote:
但又咁睇... 幾日內多左千幾個客係咁上網,個network負荷都好大,我估3可能set左speed limit... 而且其他台又無咁多咁heavy既data客

到時其他台又有賣iPhone, 又出呢D咁平既data plan, 可能都會慢左




最忠肯都係你. :D

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Posted by: rlcw
Posted on: 2008-08-11 00:22

頭文字A wrote:
disco2000 wrote:
但又咁睇... 幾日內多左千幾個客係咁上網,個network負荷都好大,我估3可能set左speed limit... 而且其他台又無咁多咁heavy既data客

到時其他台又有賣iPhone, 又出呢D咁平既data plan, 可能都會慢左




最忠肯都係你. :D




In my past company ... We always reserve the best capacity for data services ...

Especially when my past company launch HSPA service , I still remember how much capacity we've reserved . Till now , they're still using this style . I don't think they will slow down when if theres much customer attend

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Posted by: tyranid
Posted on: 2008-08-11 00:57

rlcw wrote:
頭文字A wrote:
disco2000 wrote:
但又咁睇... 幾日內多左千幾個客係咁上網,個network負荷都好大,我估3可能set左speed limit... 而且其他台又無咁多咁heavy既data客

到時其他台又有賣iPhone, 又出呢D咁平既data plan, 可能都會慢左




最忠肯都係你. :D




In my past company ... We always reserve the best capacity for data services ...

Especially when my past company launch HSPA service , I still remember how much capacity we've reserved . Till now , they're still using this style . I don't think they will slow down when if theres much customer attend



Your past company refer to the current iphone service provider or others?

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Posted by: rlcw
Posted on: 2008-08-12 14:18

tyranid wrote:
rlcw wrote:
頭文字A wrote:
disco2000 wrote:
但又咁睇... 幾日內多左千幾個客係咁上網,個network負荷都好大,我估3可能set左speed limit... 而且其他台又無咁多咁heavy既data客

到時其他台又有賣iPhone, 又出呢D咁平既data plan, 可能都會慢左




最忠肯都係你. :D




In my past company ... We always reserve the best capacity for data services ...

Especially when my past company launch HSPA service , I still remember how much capacity we've reserved . Till now , they're still using this style . I don't think they will slow down when if theres much customer attend



Your past company refer to the current iphone service provider or others?




Not the current iPhone service provider :)

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Posted by: suntse
Posted on: 2008-08-12 17:04

我就係用ipc個個plan,不過用2G iphone, 但係speedtest 個結果係............warning: a payload file did not complete downland. your connection may not be stable.

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Table './iphone1/ut_online' is marked as crashed and should be repaired

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